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« on: July 06, 2008, 02:35:58 PM » |
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The TIF option could it also have uncompressed 24 bit?
This would enable import from Capture NX etc.
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 08:29:12 PM » |
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hi, sorry for our ignorance about Capture NX. Does it take Jpeg/Png? or you really want 24-bit TIF?
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 12:43:15 AM » |
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Ideally keeping as the original NEF format RAW file.
Otherwise lossless TIFF - but it won't read the current LZW compressed TIFF.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 12:44:35 AM » |
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P.S.
Capture NX 2 is available as a free demo version if you want to try.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 08:27:48 AM » |
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Just downloaded it. However, I do not know why you want to import the tonemapped image back to Capture NX2. CN2 to me is the raw file converter/raw file manager type of application, not Photoshop/PaintDotNet type of general purpose image editing software. In other words, the processing order is: Camera -> CN2 -> EHDR -> PS or equivalent.
Another thing I noticed, by comparing the results, it looks like CN2 is only taking 8 bits or less information from the raw file. This result in a less noisy image (but less detail/information than even EHDR in 8-bit mode). In EHDR, however, we allow the user to define dynamic range when importing the raw file.Today we only allow 8 - 16 bit as the range of the choice. That must be the reason for some noisy single NEF file in EHDR!
See below for the comparison.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2008, 12:07:31 PM » |
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NX 2 has powerful edit tools - some are more productive than CS3 that I also use.
The colour control point techniques allow graded, local adjustments of the tone-mapped image.
The batch settings options also permit rapid resize, colour-profile assignment and sharpening for display or print.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2008, 12:30:38 PM » |
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The NEF files are shot at 14bit. There is an Active D-Lighting mode that can be set to High, Medium, Low or Off in the D3, D300 and also in NX.
This changes the mode for mapping the available dynamic range from the RAW file into the eventual output file which is 8 bit for JPEG.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2008, 01:17:24 PM » |
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Ok. I have been trying to find information to provide plug-in/script for NX2. Once I find it we will add it to the ExportTo list.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2008, 02:39:16 PM » |
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Unfortunately Nikon USA said they have no idea how to program a 3rd party plug in. They view NX2 NOT as an open platform. So I guess the best we can do in EHDR is to save the results as 24-bit TIFF for you.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2008, 03:10:20 PM » |
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That's great thanks for looking in to this.
I am surprised by the Nikon USA response.
"Capture NX 2 supports third-party plug-ins"
It's not a third-party if they don't open the
application to developers.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2008, 03:26:44 PM » |
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Or maybe I just did not reach the right people by calling the 1-800 number for tech support. Once EHDR is better known I guess we would get more exposures working with the imaging software vendors.
It appears as if the software is developed all ourside of USA (in Japan?) Nikon USA was good at supporting but no knowledge about development.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2008, 01:55:32 PM » |
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Nik software appears to be the developer of NX2 as well. Are they owned by Nikon? If not it would be strange if Nikon does not buy stakes in Nik. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2008, 01:34:08 PM » |
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 10:11:31 AM » |
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We will for sure add 24-bit non-compressed TIFF output later so that you can export in that format from EHDR.
Looks like Nik Software is just one smaller Nikon player in the big 3 way chess game among Nikon, Canon, and Adobe. Judging from their unwillingness to open NEF format in the past, there were some cool-headed strategists in Nikon that know what they were doing.
Also we will contact Nik software however I do not think they would want to make 3rd party plugin development easy (read: at a cost we can afford). No matter what they say publicly, the boss' core business is highest priority.
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